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Growing comfortable with the new guys

Only one thing will make this season a success, and no, trading Nate Robinson doesn’t count. The Celtics will either win an NBA championship or enter the offseason as a failure, with an NBA lockout likely and no promise the Big Three will ever play like the Big Three again.

In retrospect, that’s why I responded so harshly to the Kendrick Perkins trade. With Perkins as the starter, we knew the Celtics could win a championship. They’d already won one, and as Doc Rivers has said, the starting five with Perkins was never beaten. They won one title, lost in the Eastern Conference semifinals when Kevin Garnett got hurt, and lost in Game 7 last season after Perkins went down in Game Six. With Perkins as a starter, the Celtics were 7-0 in playoff series; 7-0-1 if you count the Lakers series as a tie.

We had faith in Perk, because we knew everything he was about. He was going to scowl, throw elbows, notch a technical foul once every three or four games, limit the opposition’s best post player (unless said post player was Andrew Bogut, who Perk never quite figured out), hold his own on the glass, scowl some more, make a few short fadeaway jumpers over his left shoulder, take his sweet ass time while releasing layups, and bring a physicality rare in the NBA. With Perk, the Celtics intimidated other teams. With Perk, the Celtics’ starting five proved it could win a championship. Without him, well, questions needed to be answered.

Can Nenad Krstic keep the defense functioning at a similar level? Can Shaq ever return to health? Who becomes Boston’s enforcer when the playoffs come and another team lowers the boom with a hard foul? Can the Celtics still defend Dwight Howard one-on-one? Does the way Howard’s teammates have played make the previous question a moot point? Can the Celtics still punish Miami inside? Do they have enough to limit the Lakers if they see them again? Is Jermaine O’Neal even alive? Are the Bulls as good as they’ve looked during the regular season? Can the Celtics handle them?

Many of those questions, of course, existed even when Perkins still wore Celtics green. I understand that. Perk’s presence did not change the O’Neal brothers’ health. It did not change that the Bulls are now a legitimate threat. Hell, Perk was injured, and his questionable health only would have added more question marks. Still, there was something comforting about knowing the Celtics had been there before as a unit. That they’d won with Perk as their starting center. That they were still undefeated in the postseason with their starting five intact.

That same feeling of familiarity no longer exists. Even now, after last night’s dismantling of Milwaukee and a mostly-impressive start to the Krstic/Green era, the new-look Celtics have yet to play a contender. They haven’t played LA, Miami, Chicago, San Antonio, or even Orlando or Oklahoma City. We don’t know how the newcomers’ success will translate against the league’s best. We don’t know how they will respond to the playoffs, and, really, neither do they. Green has played in one playoff series during his career, and Krstic has never advanced past the second round.

In short, we don’t know nearly as much about Nenad Krstic or Jeff Green as we knew about Kendrick Perkins, nor do we know as much about the new-look Celtics as we did the old-look Celtics. That lack of knowledge leaves us with a hint of wariness, of course. But as we learn more about Green and Krstic, as we learn more about the new-look Celtics, the possibilities intrigue.

We know the post defense won’t be the same*, since Krstic allows better post position than Doc Rivers would like and too frequently seems a step late on rotations. But neither will the offense from the center spot, where Krstic is A) a better shooter than Perkins, B) better at moving without the ball, C) far less prone to turnovers, and D) actually able to catch-and-shoot before an hourglass expires. We expected the rebounding would decrease, but Krstic has quickly become a Serbian Dennis Rodman, and shows no signs of slowing down his suddenly-passable rebounding rate (though my Rodman comparison was certainly hyperbole). We expected Krstic and Green would take a long time to adjust to their new mates, but both seem to have learned their roles quite quickly.

*(In the “weird stat of the day which is probably due to small sample size,” Boston’s starting lineup has performed worse offensively with Krstic than it did with Perkins. And the defense? Wouldn’t you know it, a little better with Krstic than Perkins.)

Green, already, has teamed with the other newcomers (Arroyo et al) to transform Boston’s second unit. Believe me, I spent the first half of the season knowing — just knowing — Boston’s second unit would blow a lead, or kick away a tie game, or turn a small deficit into a considerably larger one. As Boston’s second unit continually blew games or made them far closer than they should have been, I spent far too much time cursing Nate “I love shooting pull-up three-pointers in transition, even though I hardly ever make them” Robinson, wondering why Marquis Daniels produced so little, and hoping Semih Erden would finally start turning his high basketball IQ and solid athleticism into points and rebounds. Now? I no longer expect a second unit blowup, because Green, Arroyo et al have instantly changed the second unit into a functional, capable bunch. My favorite contribution Green has made so far? That I no longer dread when Doc Rivers makes substitutions.

Kendrick Perkins sat in Oklahoma City’s locker room today, calling Pau Gasol soft and Phil Jackson arrogant, making clear for all to hear: the Los Angeles Lakers will not push the Oklahoma City Thunder around, not anymore, not on Perk’s watch. It was the latest sign of the toughness we Celtics fans came to expect from Perk, except now, he makes his claims on behalf of another team.

When the Celtics need that type of toughness this postseason, they’ll have to turn to someone else. Perkins won’t be there to lend an elbow and a scowl. He won’t be there to go toe-to-toe with the league’s biggest players. He won’t be there at all, but Nenad Krstic and Jeff Green will. They won’t provide the same things Perk did, and nobody would ask them to. But they help, in ways Perk couldn’t, in ways that keep the Celtics quite dangerous, in ways that keep the Celtics at (or at least very near) the forefront of any NBA championship discussion.

Perk’s gone, of course. But the Celtics’ new starting five is still undefeated in the playoffs, no?

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categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | March 14, 2011

categories Boston Celtics, Jeff Green, Kendrick Perkins, Nenad Krstic

4 Responses to “Growing comfortable with the new guys”

  1. Jeff (The Real One) says:
    March 14, 2011 at 4:44 pm

    Perk called Pau soft and a wanabe tough guy…
    Classic Perk! We love ya big dude!!! Keep that scowl going bro!!!

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  2. paul says:
    March 14, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    What amazes me is that you continue to think that you have to make excuses for hating The Trade (which you didn’t do anyway; all you have ever done is gently question it, which virtually no one else in the Celtics Bog/Media world has had the integrity to do, in my opinion). Well I HATE The Trade, and I think everyone supporting it needs to explain themselves. I don’t have to justify my opinion. They have to justify theirs.

    Acres and acres of fake arguments for The Trade will never obscure the fundamental problem with it; for a team that is not only in the heat of a championship run, but actually leading it, or just off the lead, to make wholesale changes like this with a third of the season to go, isn’t just wrong; it’s close to insane. Let’s be honest: he reason The Trade was made was because Ainge didn’t want to deal with Perkins in the off season. That is the only real reason, and it should make Celtics fans very, very mad. But no. Somehow Celtics fans have reconciled themselves to The Trade incredibly quickly. Loyalty seems to be a remarkably convenient thing. It turns out that players are just expandable units to fans. Folks heart Perkins today, kick him tomorrow. They are, as Simmons said, rooting for a green shirt. Sorry. I can NEVER do that.

    Now, don’t get me wrong; I like Krstic and Green. I’m glad to have them. In time, they may even become important Celtics. Of course, it’s false to state that the bench has become instantly better. As we all know, the bench has had its moments since The Trade, but it has also repeatedly given up large leads. A strong argument can be made that the bench has been worse since The Trade, though, of course, injuries have played a role in that, AS THEY ALWAYS DO. And we’ll have to see how things work out between Davis and Green as they jostle for playtime and for status as the sixth man. That could be very disruptive, and if we gain a flourishing Green but lose a flourishing Davis, will that be a positive, overall? But, clearly, over time, the bench MAY become more powerful, and more dependable, than it was.

    But to blast a hole in a team just as it turns into the homestretch, in the lead for a championship, is an insult to Basketball, let alone to Celtic fans. It’s staggering that Ainge did this, and the fact that he almost certainly did it for no better reason than not wanting to negotiate with Perkins in the off season is just beyond infuriating.

    And it shouldn’t be a surprise that the Cs aren’t necessarily performing better offensively with Krstic at center. COME ON! This isn’t fantasy basketball here. We aren’t just adding skills and abilities on paper. There’s something that happens when players gel together that goes beyond paper calculations. We all know that.

    Ainge should have sat pat, brought in some strategic buyouts, and hoped for folks to return to health. The key to a championship was, more than anything, how determined the Big Four were, but I don’t think that can have been helped by Ainge’s blatantly reckless maneuvers.

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  3. Chisala says:
    March 15, 2011 at 8:47 am

    @Paul, You just took the wors out of my mouth when you wrote these lines below.
    “But to blast a hole in a team just as it turns into the homestretch, in the lead for a championship, is an insult to Basketball, let alone to Celtic fans. It’s staggering that Ainge did this, and the fact that he almost certainly did it for no better reason than not wanting to negotiate with Perkins in the off season is just beyond infuriating.”

    It seems other fans expect you to just root for the Green shirt and be able to accept any trade decisions by our ‘rocket scientist’ Danny Ainge. Even if we wanted to just root for the Green shirt alone, I do not think our emotions would let us. Obviously if Danny had just stayed off coffee and gotten a good night’s sleep, he would have come up with a sound decision which was, STAY PUT!!!! How are we the fans supposed to be so hopeful for a championship and banner 18 when Ainge himself did not have hope and faith in injured Perk. Lack of hope and faith in Perks health is the exact reason Coffeed-up Ainge though Perk wasn’t worth all the money he asked for. But what about Jermain O’neal? Has or will he ever be worth what they have given him? So why not trade people like J.O who’se contributions were obviously dispensable? I have no problem with the other memebrs being traded but on Perk? If I were Danny I would opt to keep a hurt Perk than a hurt J.O and am not even an expert on hoops but atleast I use my common sense based on what I see with my own 2 working eyes and I use my brain to remind myself that Gang Green proved itself with Perkins in playoffs and finals..So now we rest our hope for a championship on errrr Big Baby or Nenad and an aging Shaq, rulling out that J.O will be of any relevant help when we mostly need it. Hell, the guy is as good as the new guys in terms of getting used to playing together with the old team members..Not much chemistry there!!!
    So many of us loyal fans are slowly getting over Perkins trade and especially seeing him look happy in OHC last night helped many of us have closure but will lately-miserable Rondo get over it soon enough? Soon enough to get the wins we really need? The guy lost not only a team member but also a brother, a best friend that he has been so close so for so long..and seeing from his reaction to the Perk-trade, he talked as if he felt betrayed…betrayed that no one even cared to inform him of the trade..It seemed this was a guy thinking “wow so this is seriously just business and no regard for players ha!!!” Fine we can say to Rondo “get over it already and let’s concentrate on winning a championship!” but will he do it soon enough is my question?

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  4. James says:
    March 15, 2011 at 11:43 am

    To answer the ‘critics’, the bench is stronger since the trade. It’s so obvious but you’re letting your tears (i.e. emotions) keep you from seeing the marked improvement. Check the stats of the games since the trade vs the games before the trade. The problem with the Cs at the moment is not the new guys it’s the core 4 not playing as they should ( they may be coasting…their specialty at this time of the year – reference last season) and Rondo. He is either injured (if so rest him) or just being selfish and if so his ‘pouting’ is hurting the team as it fights for the home court advantage. Ergo he is not doing his job and what he is paid for. He isn’t paid to make friends and if this continues one more game then he should be benched. And if it continues into the playoffs then trade his ass at the end of the season. No one player is bigger than the ‘team’ especially in the Celtics’ universe. His play has deteriorated so much lately he is now playing to the level of a medicore PG in his last 10 games. Someone should slap him and tell him to get over it. I, and apparently many others, believe this team is better. We also have faith in DA based on his bringing a championship to the fans and now having a better team than the one that lost last year. Time will tell who wins this ‘war’ of comments in regards to the ‘trade’. But from what my eyes see this new infusion of players are playing Celtic ‘team’ ball but are being let down by their mentors. Go Cs…

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