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Jeff Green falling short of expectations, unless you expected him to remain Jeff Green

“You hate someone whom you really wish to love, but whom you cannot love. Perhaps he himself prevents you.” – Sri Chinmoy

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In the same way you really wish to love your crazy mother-in-law, I wish to love Jeff Green. I desperately want to embrace him as a Celtic. I want to think back on Green’s tenure in Boston one day and smile in remembrance of happy times. I want to tell my grandson stories of Green helping the Celtics win a championship, stories of the game Green came off the bench to deliver a remarkable performance that will echo in Celtics lore for decades to come. With all my heart, I want to love Green. I do. But he himself prevents me.

Actually, Green’s inability to earn his place in my heart isn’t solely his fault. I don’t really hate him—all that cliche` jazz about hate being a strong word and all—but I definitely don’t love him. I’ll do my best to explain in more detail, using a few related short stories.

The email chain

Six knowledgeable Celtics fans begin an email chain to discuss all  matters pertaining to the Celtics. Mostly, these email buddies don’t know each other personally. But because of their affinity for the Celtics and for writing about the Celtics, they use the email chain to become friends. Chalk another one up to “sports bonds people together,” or, if you look at things a different way, “having Celtics pen pals is pretty damn strange.”

At first, the emails are only about the Celtics. Pointing out things like, “Semih Erden will never be a good starter; he looks too much like Shaggy from Scooby Doo”, or, “Man, Paul Pierce looks like he’s in great shape,” or, “Another 20+ assist night for Rajon Rondo!” becomes the norm. But, really, the discussions are far deeper than that. The emailers begin back-and-forth conversations about all things Celtics, sharing and advancing knowledge between themselves. They start game threads off with one point; within hours, that point has been expanded upon and often spider-webbed into another point, or many more points. Before long, the emails become as much about the Celtics’ opponent as they are about the Celtics.

After an early-season game against the Oklahoma City Thunder, the spotlight turns toward Jeff Green and Sam Presti. At the time, Green is still a power forward for the Thunder. He’s posting great box score statistics, but the emailers, all basketball geeks, understand there’s more to the story.

“I think we’re closing in on what I consider Presti’s first real land-mine,” one of the emailers writes, “his first tempting chance to make what could be a real big mistake: Jeff Green.

“I like Jeff Green. Everybody likes Jeff Green. He’s a nice player. He plays hard, seems to be a good guy and does a few different things reasonably well on the court.

“But he also doesn’t do any one thing at a level that could even be qualified as much better than ‘reasonably well.’ ”

“There’s so much to like about Green,” another emailer responds. “He’s 24 years old, already averages 19.4 ppg and 7.2 rpg and can do a little bit of everything. But he’s not the type of player you win championships with. Presti has a big decision with him, and I trust he’ll see that Green’s value isn’t as high as a lot of non-hoops nerds believe it is.”

Man makes trade

The second emailer referred to above, Jay King, edits a brutal, boring basketball blog called Celtics Town. On the day of the NBA trade deadline, Jay, who would like to consider himself hard-working and gorgeous even though he’s lazy and fat, awaits news about who the Celtics will trade. Halfway through the season, the Celtics are frontrunners to win the NBA title. But Marquis Daniels recently injured his spinal cord, so the Celtics need a backup small forward. Mostly everyone expects Danny Ainge to make a minor deal.

Some Shane Battier rumors float around, but Anthony Parker seems like the most likely target. Jay’s mostly indifferent to Parker. He’s not bad. He can shoot from outside. He’ll play hard. He’ll be an adequate backup. He won’t help too much, but he won’t hurt either.

Thirty minutes before the deadline, the Celtics still haven’t made a deal. Jay starts to worry.

“Maybe the Celtics aren’t making a deal after all?” he asks himself. “But that means Von Wafer’s their backup small forward the rest of the season. Not exactly ideal.”

Then he gets a text from Twitter. Yes, a text from Twitter. There are two reasons Jay gets texts from Twitter: 1) his phone is old and can’t download any Twitter applications, and 2) he’s a blogger, so he needs his news quickly. I guess there’s also a third thing to note about these Twitter texts: Jay swears he’s not as weird as you think. He knows pen palling with random Celtics writers and getting texts from Twitter doesn’t exactly spell “cool,” but really, he’s not that odd.

The tweet comes from Adrian Wojnarowski. The Celtics have traded Kendrick Perkins. Woj does not say for who.

Jay screams.

“What the f–k? Since Game 7 against the Lakers, this has always been about size. Now we’re trading our most reliable size away? What about Ubuntu? What about ‘the starting five has never lost a playoff series?’ ”

“Wait…”

Jay’s still screaming, but realizes he’s missing something.

“Who did the Celtics get?”

The next text comes quickly. Perkins and Nate Robinson were traded for Nenad Krstic and … Jeff Green.

Jay thinks about the email thread from earlier in the season. His screams become louder and his complaints become more expletive-laced, until finally they fade to mute. In their place, only a groan beginning deep in Jay’s heart remains.

A fresh beginning

The Celtics win the first five games of the Green-Krstic era. For the time-being, Jay eats crow. But Krstic’s play, tough-minded and hard-nosed, is sort of like a Jarrod Saltalamacchia hitting streak—sure, it’s fun while it lasts. But do you really expect it to last long?

And Green? He’s playing more efficiently than he ever did in Oklahoma City. Maybe this bench role fits him well. Maybe playing small forward suits him more than playing power forward. Maybe his defense can be overshadowed by Boston’s schemes.

Or maybe, the thought lurks in the back of Jay’s mind, he is exactly what we thought he was.

A child’s jump

A small child, only two years old, stands thirteen stories in the air on the balcony of a hotel. Jeff Green stands below the girl, looking up at the small dot in the sky, wondering where the child’s parents are. As a number of onlookers watch with shock, the child, still just a toddler, jumps. As the child’s body approaches the ground, everybody expects blood and the splat of death. People scream. Grown men cry. Jeff Green has no reaction.

Okay, you got me. I made it up. The child didn’t really jump. There actually was no child at all. But if there had been, one assumes Green would have watched with all the excitement of a toll booth worker handing out tickets for the 13th straight hour. Green never shows any more excitement than that. He could miss fourteen straight shots and not display anger. He could make an NBA Finals-clinching, and-one three-pointer and not display joy. Doc Rivers says Green still cares, that he cares a lot, that he cares more than we know. But, Jay thinks to himself, it’s not good when a coach needs to explain how much his player cares.

Fading away

The Celtics fade down the stretch of the regular season. Green regresses to the mean. A hopeful Celtics fan base comes to know Green for who he is, rather than who Ainge and Rivers built him up to be. On defense, Green gets as lost as a blind man whose seeing eye dog has run away. On offense, Green doesn’t get lost so much as he disappears. On rebounding, well, Jay’s not sure Green knows what that means.

The bench loses leads, lots of them. Green’s a big part of that. Anthony Parker could have done this much, thinks Jay, maybe even more. And if the Celtics had acquired Parker instead they could have kept Perkins, who, in a surprise to none, has quickly become one of Oklahoma City’s spiritual leaders.

It’s impossible to describe Jay’s feelings toward Green without also discussing Perkins. If Green had been a waiver-wire pickup, his play would be fine. If he had been a minimum-contract player, this lack of production would be explainable. But the Celtics traded away quality size while also risking their theretofore impenetrable team chemistry, all for a backup small forward who has made little contributions to winning games. To make things sound even better, the Celtics play significantly worse with Green on the floor, just like the Thunder had. Doh. At least the Celtics have the opportunity to sign him for the future! But Jay dreads that thought. Unless Green comes cheap. Really cheap. A thirty rack of Keystone Light cheap.

Okay, maybe slightly more expensive than that. But just slightly.

Finally! …. err, I mean kind of

During Boston’s sixth playoff game, Green finally reaches double figures for the first time in the postseason. Awesome! He even carries Boston’s offense for a little while, at a time when they really need it. Marvelous!

In the process, he allows Lebron James to shoot 8-12 while he’s on the court. Rats. Only two of those shots, according to one writer’s unofficial count, are contested. Bleh. As some people point out, if Chris Bosh hadn’t goaltended an errant Green three for no apparent reason whatsoever, Green would still have exactly zero games of double figure scoring this entire postseason. Yikes.

Keep in mind: with Shaq injured, Doc Rivers unwilling to play Jermaine O’Neal big minutes and Glen Davis entering a whole new world of suck, the Celtics could use another reliable big man like Tom Brady could use a haircut.

They lose the first two games against the Heat. After the second game, a Boston Globe columnist writes that Green is “one of exactly two Celtics who can keep pace with the Heat’s electric perimeter players athletically.” Jay wonders if this columnist even watched Green get torched by Lebron. Then he wishes, for the 9,483,378th time, that Ainge could time travel back to the trade deadline and make amends. Alas, time travel is not yet possible. Perhaps one day.

One last email

The email thread continues throughout the whole season. One emailer begins adding the signature “F–k Jeff Green” to all his emails. Another adds that it should also say, “F–k Danny Ainge.” A third discusses his confusion with how to react to Osama bin Laden’s death. For those wondering, it’s the first time the email chain has ever exited the realm of basketball. After several paragraphs of startling openness, the email ends thusly:

“The most important thing out of all of this is that we all agree on this bedrock principle of American exceptionalism: Jeff Green sucks.”

Jay reads the email. He laughs. He nods his head. Then he thinks to himself, “Green doesn’t actually suck. But he doesn’t help much, either. And for all the Celtics risked to acquire him, he should probably offer a whole lot more.”

And now, Jay hopes for a J.D. Drew moment he figures will never come.

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categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | May 5, 2011

24 Responses to “Jeff Green falling short of expectations, unless you expected him to remain Jeff Green”

  1. jet says:
    May 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    LOL, the celtics took a calculated risked and so far its not working clearly. My issue with Green is it doesnt seem he has that intensity or willingness to play defense. He has all the physical tools to be a solid defender but it seems he has lapses. In game one he actually was moving his feet and had moments where he played solid defense. However, he is not consistent on either side. Furthermore, lets not forget Lebron is one hell of a player but Green must make life tougher for him. Green might become a journeyman. Also lets all blame Green for his shortcomings he has never been a good defender and to expect him to become on in a matter of months is a bit much. If the celts could have gotten Harden and Collison that would have been a gd trade.

    Harden is a good defender and can knock down shoots. Collison is a service banger and is way tougher than Krstic. We all know Euro players tend to be soft except for the few exceptions.

    Finally, Doc will need to make adjust maybe Rondo on Wade. Celts in 7

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  2. allen says:
    May 5, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Bottomline is Jeff green has to play better, but everyone thinking that if we had Perk things would be great is foolish. The guy we miss is Tony Allen he could help us huge in this series to gaurd Wade—Perk would have the same problems Davis and Jermaine have face offensively—Joel anthony doesnt gaurd them and if Rondo isnt playing well we are playing 3 on 5—-Talk about the Perk trade all you want if it makes you feel better—-But the crushing blow was not resigning Tony Allen—And i dont blame that on Danny b/c Tony wanted to start and there is no way you are doing that with Ray on the team.

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  3. Sam says:
    May 5, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Memphis offered TA more money than the C’s wanted to, simple as that, no starting spot involved.

    Perk was a key component of the identity (toughness and swagger) of this team. Chemistry issues started after his departure, when the new guys had a hard time fitting into the frame.

    This is not the Celtics team we know and love. Don’t get me wrong, guys are playing their heart out but the identity just isn’t there anymore.

    Battier, Parker.. shit even Chuck Hayes woulda been better than Jeff Green and Krstic for Perk.

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  4. allen says:
    May 5, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    Tony allen is the guy we need for this series, all those other options wouldnt have made a difference in my mind Shaq healthy or Tony allen on the roster to gaurd Wade or Lebron —would be the only two significant differences that could of made this series alot easier

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  5. nate says:
    May 5, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Danny ainge is to blame. How can you and your random friends know jeff green sucks but danny doesn’t. Jeff green has never ever been a lock down defender or an impact scorer of the bench so why would danny or anyone else expect it now.

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  6. nate says:
    May 5, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    on a brighter note Blake griffin will be a free agent in a year.
    Talk about impact scoring.

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  7. James says:
    May 5, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    You’ll be writing glowing articles about Green within two years I bet. He just is deferring too much and until he feels being a ‘full’ member of the team then it’s a process in progress. He’s also going to win a playoff game for the Cs and that’ll help his confidence and team standing. So how about a scathing article about Doc and his lame rotations including sitting JO and playing Davis instead and the sitting of the core 4 when the game was 80-80? Too many days off leads to too much negativity. Celtics will hold their home court and win this series. Go Cs…

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  8. Nick says:
    May 5, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    I’ve read it a thousand times that trading Kendrick Perkins was a huge mistake blah blah blah. I understand it’s old and doesn’t exactly need to be brought up everytime something bad happens( James as said that on numerous occasions). But, all of you and Jay have said that the trade of Perkins really impacted Rondo because supposedly Perkins was Rondo’s closest freind on the team. As far as i know, nobody has mentioned it here, but lets look at it in reverse. A mid-season trade effects chemistry in the locker room for both teams, and ecspecially the players traded. Perkins hasn’t exactly had a smooth start in Oklahoma City, and neither has Jeff Green. If you think about it, just like Rondo was (suppposedly) effeected by the trade, what about Perkins and Green? They’re both going to new enviorments and such. Has it ever occured to anyone that maybe the reason JEff Green hasn’t gotton off fantastically is because he is in a new enviorment? In a new role? And some people say that his role hasn’t been clearly defined to him by the coaching staff either. I think it makes perfect sense, doesn’t it?

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  9. Nick says:
    May 5, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Also, same thing with Perkins. Because we know he was at most a good defensive center.

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  10. James says:
    May 5, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Good points Nick. It takes time for chemistry just like it did when KG and RA showed up. It doesn’t happen as fast as we all want. And Doc definitely needs to give Green more minutes. Go Cs…

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  11. Nick says:
    May 5, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    James
    I think Doc is hesitant to give Green more minutes in such a do-or-die situation right now. Mainly because he hasn’t proven himself. I know that he can’t prove himself if his minutes are limited, but i can understand Doc’s prespective. And i understand yours. I’m not sure even though we need a contributer off of the bench, that Doc wants to play such a (possiblly) risky move.
    On a side note, glad Shaq should be able to play on Saturday. Maybe he’ll contribute. Most likley if the Celtics don’t win on Saturday it’s the end of the year. Hell, it could be the end of the Big Three era if there is a lockout that impedes the start of the regular season. Which, would be quite unfortunate. And dissapointing.
    Great article Jay, by the way.

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  12. James says:
    May 5, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    Nick… Doc is hesitant and that’s a problem I think. Why not play Green with the core 4 more while resting PP? I think it’s Doc’s rotations that are the issue. Go Cs…

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  13. Nick says:
    May 6, 2011 at 12:55 am

    James
    Essentially your agreeing with exactly what i just said, just re-wording it a little, or that’s what i got from what you said. And your contradicting yourself again because you said the core 4 (which, in my mind, consists of Rondo, Allen, Pierce, And Garnett) and green while resting Paul. If you rest Paul, and you have Green, Rondo, Garnett, and Allen out there, who do you think is the fifth man?
    Sorry if i misunderstood what you meant.

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  14. Nick says:
    May 6, 2011 at 12:56 am

    Oh, and i agree with what you were saying about how Doc’s rotations are an issue. I believe they are as well.

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  15. James says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:00 am

    Sorry Nick…you’re correct. My error. I meant Green should play more with the starters, which with PP out would be the core 3, JO or Shaq. Thanks for catching that. I try and proofread everything but sometimes my Celtic brain gets over-loaded. That’s a rotation that I don’t believe we’ve seen or at least not much. Go Cs…

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  16. Chris H says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:01 am

    Green doesn’t suck but he’s like toothpaste you get at the Dollar Store; it’s unremarkable, bland, and leaves a bad aftertaste in your mouth (okay, bad analogy but I’m tired tonight)

    James, I truly admire your constant optimism. You could be a motivational speaker. And I mean that as a compliment.

    But I don’t share your optimism. Green will not win a game. At best, he might score in double digits again while not giving up more than he scores. He might even grab 5 rebs. He might even get pumped up after a play (less likely).

    For you Tony Allen fans, I was saying that all last week while watching Memphis taking it at the Spurs, and then OKC. He and Perk combined helped give the C’s a very tough edge, one that was aggressive on D, one that didn’t give up free points in the paint, one that kept the superstars on their toes. Their tougness combined is sorely missed, and will never be replaced by Green/Krystic.

    Worse yet, I’d rather have Nate Robinson than Jeff Green. At least Nate always had the potential to spark things for the C’s, the guy who could erupt for 10 or 15 in a quarter. Green does not have that spark. And here we traded Perk away to get Green.

    James, as always, I hope that I am wrong. But I can’t get my hopes up too high on a team that is lacking what it had last year. The Big 3 look old and tired and resigned to a younger team on the rise, one that knows it’s on a mission. They look like witnesses to their own defeat, instead of coming out and battling.

    Will home court change things that much? I hope so. But even if they can pull out two wins at home, they still need to win one in Miami.

    GO C’S.

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  17. Nick says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:19 am

    Yeah no problem James.. I agree. That would be a nice rotation to see.. I think it has potential. PP needs rest from chasing Wade/Lebron all game. I’d like to see that in the second or third quarters, rest him for a big fourth.

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  18. James says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:23 am

    Chris…Doesn’t matter what they had “last year” as we’re in this year with this group. NR? Really? I’ll take Green 1,000 times before ever taking NR. Green may not flourish this playoff run and continue to struggle but I think as time goes on and more games are played you’ll be singing his praises. He has a ton of talent. Now he just needs confidence (of Doc, his teammates, and himself most importantly) to play like we know he can. So far he’s 7-12 shooting for 20 pts and 7 rebs. in the 2 games while getting 21 minutes or so in each game. He needs more shots and that falls on the PG and others ‘trusting’ him but he also needs to rebound better. Davis is 4-12 with 10 pts and 6 rebs in the two games (24 mins ave.). His stats are terrible considering how strong he’s played in previous playoff series over the years. And I still contend that if Davis switches on the picks set against Green then LBJ doesn’t get easy looks at the basket. Both need to pick it up. And yes, I am optimistic because I know they’ll respond as they always have. They just screwed up the reg. season and lost the home court advantage so they’ll have to do it the hard way but they are certainly capable of doing so. Go Cs…

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  19. James says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:26 am

    Nick…absolutely. Doc just sticks with his plan and that’s another reason I think he has weaknesses as a coach. He isn’t willing to try different rotations. Granted it’s a tough time to do so in a playoff series, but early in a game would not hurt. Go Cs…

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  20. Nick says:
    May 6, 2011 at 9:21 am

    James
    I know this is just speculation, but what if he is worried todo exactly what you just said because he feels it could put them in a big hole? At this rate i don’t think he thinks that if his team wanted to, they could pull off a major comeback. Therefore, he probablly doesn’t want to dig a hole, when he thinks the team can’t dig out.

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  21. James says:
    May 6, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Nick…If he tried it early in the game and then let’s say we dropped by 10 pts then he could substitute back but I think it’s worth the try because it actually might lead to good things including more confidence by Green. Maybe they go up 10 and make the Heat adjust? I just wish Doc would try it. Go Cs…

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  22. paul says:
    May 6, 2011 at 10:33 am

    As much as I agree that Jeff Green is a journeyman with potential, not the budding superstar that many in the media and fandom have built him up to be, I think this discussion misses the real point about The Trade by a mile. Danny Ainge himself said what we ALL knew the moment The Trade was announced: that ‘he probably would not have made the deal if Perkins had signed the contract the Celtics offered him’. In other words, The Trade was made, not to further a championship run, but rather to avoid a potentially problematic contract situation. How hard is it to understand that there is NO possible excuse for making a deal, based on such reasons, when a team is leading a championship run into the homestretch? How hard is it to understand that when you make a deal for the wrong reasons, it is highly unlikely to have been made well? How hard is it to understand that the player acquired in such a deal would have to be a freaking superstar for acquiring him to be work all the disruption? How hard should it have been for us to see through all the creamy rationalizations lathered all over The Trade by Danny and Doc?

    None of this was hard to see.

    And you can darn well be sure that the Celtics players didn’t miss any of this. Whatever they have chosen to say in public, and maybe even in private, maybe even to themselves, they all know that Danny betrayed this team and its fans, and that Doc backed him up in that betrayal. No one should be surprised that this team is not playing with the toughness and determination that has been its hallmark. One should be surprised at how well they have managed to hold themselves together through everything that has happened, most especially The Trade.

    I keep hoping that the team will get together and decide to win a championship despite what happened. During the Knicks series, it seemed possible that that had begun to happen. Now it looks doubtful. Still, this team is still fully capable of coming together and driving right through the Heat to a championship.

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  23. James says:
    May 6, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    paul..there you go again. Go Cs…

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  24. Chris H says:
    May 7, 2011 at 1:26 am

    Paul: I agree with you but I’m hoping that James is right. I’m a few drinks into the night and all I can say is that win or lose tomorrow, you guys are all awesome Celtics fans.

    GO C’S

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