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On rebounding: Examining Boston’s offensive rebounding woes

I once had a girlfriend (we’ll call her Beth) who mispronounced my friend Dan Potito’s last name every time she said it. At first, I corrected Beth whenever she made the mistake.

“Pah-tee-toe,” I would say before muttering, “Damn it, what a moron” under my breath.

A day later, a week later, or sometimes even just a couple hours later, she would make the mistake again. This time I would slow my speech down, like I was trying to teach a pre-schooler how to read.

“Pah. Tee. Toe,” I would correct her. “Pah. Tee. Toe.”

Depending on how frustrated I was with her shortcomings, I might even add a four-letter word rhyming with tuck.

Inevitably, my lessons failed. Beth had some type of road block prohibiting her from saying Potito. No matter how many times she screwed up, no matter how many times I corrected her, she kept inserting an ‘N’ into his name. Where the ‘N’ came from, I will never know. But she kept saying Pontito, and I kept rolling my eyes, and finally I decided to ignore her mispronunciations altogether. I could think of better ways to spend my time than correcting somebody who could not possibly be corrected.

During the past two seasons, I reached that point with Boston’s rebounding. I could either rip the poor rebounding during almost every game recap and offer advice to correct it (Pah-tee-toe, damn it!), or I could blissfully ignore it, pretend it didn’t happen, and continue as if the recurring problem did not exist. Just to clarify: by rebounding problem, I almost solely mean offensive rebounding. The Celtics rated 9th in the NBA in defensive rebound rate (the percentage Boston grabbed of all defensive rebounds available), but dead last in offensive rebound rate (the percentage Boston grabbed of all offensive rebounds available). Overall, they were the 19th-best rebounding team in the NBA last season according to rebounding rate, tied with the Toronto Raptors and only one spot ahead of the New Jersey Nets. Of all the serious contenders, the Celtics were the only team to haul in less than 50% of available rebounds. But I rarely addressed it because, well, what was the point? The Celtics were a below-average rebounding team, they were consistently that way, and if I complained about rebounding night in and night out, I would have sounded like an MP3 player on loop.

Still, the problem persisted.  Looking at Boston’s roster, there’s no easy fix for the offensive rebounding issues in regards to next season. But there is hope, if just a glimmer. The Celtics will enter this summer knowing full well that their offensive rebounding needs a serious boost, and there are a few options to address the issue.

One way they could address rebounding is through roster changes. As of now, the Celtics currently have three big men under contract. Two are creaky veterans (Kevin Garnett and Jermaine O’Neal), and one is a pinky-finger thin rookie not known for his rebounding prowess (JaJuan Johson). Danny Ainge will undoubtedly address Boston’s lack of size via free agency, whether by re-signing Glen Davis or by adding free agent big men from other teams. But with the Celtics already committed to a boatload of salary and the NBA potentially looking at a hard cap (no mid-level exceptions), adding quality size will prove difficult, if not impossible. WEEI’s Ben Rohrbach examined the crop of free agent big men yesterday, concluding that Boston’s best outcome this summer would be to luck into Greg Oden on the cheap and add a role player like Nazr Mohammed in addition. Needless to say, when the best-case scenario includes adding Nazr Mohammed and Greg Oden’s body bag, options are limited.

Oden, at least if he could stay on his feet, would address Boston’s rebounding problem. But even after playing only 82 games through four professional seasons, he might still be out of Boston’s price range. In fact, price issues could become a pattern this summer. Samuel Dalembert’s rebounding percentage would have led the Celtics this season, but even Dalembert should be out of Boston’s price range. Tyson Chandler would help Boston immensely, but he’ll probably be too expensive. DeAndre Jordan should find more money elsewhere, too (although, in retrospect, the Celtics probably should have drafted him rather than J.R. Giddens—and by probably, I mean Danny Ainge should fall asleep each night with regrets).

Rather than sign a franchise-altering center this summer, the Celtics will likely have to target the Kurt Thomases and Nazr Mohammeds of the world; in other words, players who are closer to getting their AARP cards than they are to being in college. Those players would provide a rebounding upgrade, yes, but they would also play smaller roles that would limit their minutes and thus hinder their effect. With monetary limitations and limited options, the Celtics will find adding rebounding through free agency difficult. Even if they decide to re-sign Glen Davis or Jeff Green, neither rebounds the ball well.

Another option would be a trade. But there are problems with that. The Celtics have limited assets and the best assets they do have will be difficult to trade for fair value. Their most valuable trade pieces still include Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, two of whom (Allen and Garnett) aren’t just All-Stars but also possess expiring contracts. Trading one or two of the Big Three for Dwight Howard would be magnificent, but trading them for a merely serviceable center might cause a riot in Faneuil Hall. Ainge could also choose to move Rajon Rondo, which might not be intelligent because Rondo’s a young, All-Star point guard who makes Brendan Haywood money—those are difficult to find.

If Ainge decides not to move any of the Fab Four, his trade bait would likely consist of Green (whose value eroded toward the end of last season), Davis (ditto) and some combination of recent draft picks (something tells me very few teams want Avery Bradley) and future draft picks (the Clippers’ pick is a nice trade chip, but it’s top-10 protected).  Or, a pu-pu platter. When you add that Boston has built plenty of cap space for 2012 and Ainge has already stated his intentions to use it only on the right players, the Celtics are handcuffed not only by their limited assets but also by who they can and cannot trade for due to future cap implications.

All of which means the Celtics will struggle to add any significant rebounding through roster additions. Any improvement they make could have to come internally, or by addition through subtraction. Strategically speaking, Doc Rivers should change his team’s philosophy on offensive rebounding. In the past, he has intentionally foregone offensive rebounding in order to set up a stiff transition defense. But Boston’s defense has been at or near the top of the NBA for the past four seasons. Lately, it’s the offense that has slipped, and a crucial part of the slippage has been Boston’s lack of offensive rebounds.

Believe it or not, the Celtics were only the 17th most efficient offensive team last season. They managed to accomplish offensive mediocrity even while leading the NBA in field goal percentage. How? Four main reasons: the Celtics were 22nd in fewest turnovers, 25th in three-pointers made, 24th in free throws made, and dead last in offensive rebounding. Improving in any of those four categories would increase Boston’s offensive efficiency. But the improvements could prove difficult. Outside of Paul Pierce and Ray Allen, the Celtics have very few shooters. The lack of free throws was an effect of aging players who can’t get to the hoop like they used to, a problem that seems unlikely to change. And the offensive rebounds? The Celtics game plan deserves partial blame, but the aging, perimeter-oriented roster also contributed to the rebounding dearth.

In an October 8, 2009 study, Basketball Prospectus’s Kevin Pelton examined the correlation between age and offensive rebounding. He found that a player’s offensive rebound rate (ORR) normally drops very early in his career and remains lower later in his career. This could be entirely a function of age. Or it could be something else. “My presumption,” wrote Pelton, “is that as [players] expand their game and add range, they are pulled away from the basket and spend less time securing second chances.”

Whether decreasing offensive rebound totals are a function of age or perimeter-oriented big men, last year’s Celtics were damned. Their big men were old, raggedy and perimeter-oriented. The old: Kevin Garnett posted the second-worst ORR of his career. Shaq posted the worst of his. Jermaine O’Neal wasn’t much better. Glen Davis’s ORR decreased by more than 50% in one season. All the rebounding offenders were old (except for Davis, who is big-boned). All were perimeter-oriented (except for Shaq, who missed more than half the season due to injury). When including Nenad Krstic and Semih Erden (whose youth did not make him more than an average offensive rebounder), the Celtics entire frontcourt was saddled with poor-to-mediocre offensive rebounders. And the two worst—Garnett and Davis—received the majority of playing time.

Next year (assuming there is a next year), Garnett will presumably still start and play the majority of minutes at power forward. Because he has not been a good offensive rebounder since relocating to Boston, we can comfortably assume he will still rebound a small percentage of his teammates’ misses. But Davis is likely a goner, meaning his minutes (and his putrid 5.7% ORR) will be gone.  Jermaine O’Neal will likely get some of those minutes (if his body can handle it), and he should be an upgrade from Big Baby in terms of crashing the glass. But he’s not Zach Randolph or Kevin Love—he won’t manufacture four or five extra shots for Boston on a nightly basis. The rest of those minutes should go to offseason pickups (again, the Celtics don’t have much of an opportunity to add serious talent) and JaJuan Johnson (who did not rebound particularly well even in college). Chances are, no spectacular offensive rebounders there.

Cutting Glen Davis loose would help the Celtics make improvements on the offensive glass. But those improvements will be meager unless Rivers decides to change his coaching philosophy. Considering that the team’s offense was last season’s problem, Rivers should seriously consider changing his ways.

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categories Celtics Blog, Featured | Jay King | June 28, 2011

categories Boston Celtics, Danny Ainge, Doc Rivers, Glen Davis, Jeff Green, Jermaine O'Neal, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Ray Allen

5 Responses to “On rebounding: Examining Boston’s offensive rebounding woes”

  1. James says:
    June 28, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    I prefer to use these stats which show the Cs were next to last in overall rebounding (#/game), which to me is the true stat because it’s based on shots missed.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/team/_/stat/rebounds-per-game

    The Celtics have an offensive rebounder and one that is very good in Murphy, who could play a ‘Rodman’ type role, but he isn’t used. I think the best move would be to have Doc address the problem by:

    1. Get rid of the all run back on defense strategy that leaves the center and usually only Rondo around the key to rebound (and: why is it that all players are taught to ‘follow your shot’ yet NONE of the Celtics do so ever other than Rondo or if a player is within 2 ft of the basket?). And teach them all to box out for Christ-sakes. If the Cs had 5 more rebs per game they likely would have had home court advantage and certainly would have won it all if not for the injuries.

    2. Set rebounding goals in training camp whereby each player just adds 1-2 rebounds per game to their total career averages, thereby adding up to 8-10 more rebs per game which means less shots for the opponents and more for the Cs. Simple idea but totally incomprehensible for Doc and his coaching staff to ever speak about or advocate for.

    3. Practice rebounding in all practices. Yep, in honor of Allen Iverson, ‘you mean practice?’, the Cs should really begin from the very first session and focus on this. And then when guys don’t rebound in games Doc should yank them. Yeah right. Good luck with that.

    Pat Riley famously said “no rebounds, no rings” back when Magic’s teams were making their run. It is the key thing that all players can do and it has nothing to do with slumps or any other aspect of one’s game being good or bad at any given moment, as it is all mental. Nothing but determination to block out your man and make an f’in effort to get the ball.

    In 2008 when they won the title the Cs were 3rd in rebounding. In the title series vs the Lakers they were 23rd (and gave up a shitload of offensive rebs to Kobe in Game 7) and last year next to last. The writings on the wall but nobody, not Doc, not DA, not the players (only Shaq last yr spoke about it in comments I remember) speaks about focusing and getting better at this basic and most important aspect of controlling any game. Hopefully, something will change this season and everyone will buy into hitting the f’in boards HARD!!! Go Cs….

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  2. paul says:
    June 28, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    The Celtics are a below average rebounding team and they should be well above average, if anything. As a Celtics fan, I feel embarrassed by the lack of rebounding. I long ago came to associate Celtics basketball with team play, toughness, hustle, defense and REBOUNDING. There’s something that really grates about rooting for a team that rebounds poorly, especially when it is a team that otherwise prides itself on fundementals and energy. And just imagine where our rebounding would be without Garnett.

    That said, I think our best possible move would be to trade Garnett and Ray Ray and whoever else not named Rajon Rondo for Dwight Howard. Next, we need a coaching shakeup.

    Really, I think folks need to wake up. Cutting Davis loose will likely not help us at all, or very little. It could hurt us a lot. And there aren’t a lot of other blazing personnel changes we can probably make, as you point out, Jay. Rather than dream about cutting Baby, just to be mean to him, it makes a thousand times more sense for the Celtics to do whatever it takes to get the big man and bench coaching in here that we need. HERE is one place where the imagination and boldness that so many of you are so damned eager to give Ainge credit for could really make a difference. We desperately need to get someone or someones in here who can teach and motivate rebounding and bench play and post offense.

    In particular, we should be concerned about coaching Davis. No, Davis is not the talent he seems to think he is, but he is someone who is talented enough that he could and should be making a bigger difference for us. THIS IS A COACHING PROBLEM. Fans need to rethink the whole scapegoat Davis thing. The one thing that we could do that could leverage a lot of improvement, other than Rondo becoming a better shooter, is better big man and bench coaching.

    Jay, I think your analysis of the offense is DEAD WRONG. The problem with our offense is us not pushing the ball. We have all of us seen this over and over and over again: when Rondo walks the ball up and stands around and doesn’t start the play until he has eaten up a third or more of the shot clock, our offense goes straight to hell.

    James, I totally hear you on the ‘follow your shot’ thing. It makes me crazy that the Cs never do that. I understand about getting back on defense, but jeez.

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  3. paul says:
    June 28, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    I almost forgot – Pierce too should be ruled out of any DH trade. Basically, Rondo and Pierce should be untouchable.

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  4. Cjkasino says:
    June 29, 2011 at 2:55 pm

    I think the WHOLE fab 4 should b untouchable, ray ray is the shooter, he had one of his best season of his career last year,kg is the heart and soul of the team, paul is the captain, and rondo is the future, none of these guys should go anywhere…big baby can b let go her thinks he’s bigger than the team and he’s not worth the head aches , now if he can stay and go back to playing like he was before the all star break than great, all the c’s need are two players maybe 3…a tough hard nose center, and power forward…like pj brown in ’08, and marquis daniels back or a true small forward who can score and defend ala james posey in ’08…and a kurt thomas type player… If jeff green stays, believe me he will have a break out season I really hope he and d.west stay .

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