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Jeff Green says he considers himself one of NBA’s best defenders

Jeff Green has been phenomenal during the preseason. Sadly, I say that only because I’m next going to use statistics to insult his defense. But yes, Jeff, I do see what you’re doing and I respect it entirely. I just wish you wouldn’t go calling yourself one of the NBA’s best defenders, because then I have to explain that you couldn’t be further from the truth. (Boston Herald)

Of his defense overall, he said, “That’s my calling. I’ve got to be a guy who can go out there and guard the best player on the opposite team, whether it’s Carmelo(Anthony), LeBron (James), Kevin Durant, Kobe Bryant — doesn’t matter. I see myself as being one of the top defensive players in this league, and I’ve just got to go out there and prove it.”

Green’s teams have annually played better defense with him sitting on the bench, but…

Weird but true story: Green’s individual defense was actually good during his time with the Boston Celtics in 2010-11. According to 82games.com, he allowed opponents only a 7.8 PER (approximately half of the league average) at the small forward position. His defense at power forward with the Celtics (15.9 PER) was slightly worse than league average, but still significantly better than the 18.0 PER he allowed at the position with Oklahoma City that season.

So what’s the issue? If Green performed reasonably well as an individual defender in Boston, why were the Celtics still 4.72 points per 100 possessions worse defensively with Green on the court? Why was his defensive rating of 107.95 the third-worst on the team, better only than Sasha Pavlovic and Chris Johnson?

1) Green often played the same position as Kevin Garnett. When Garnett leaves the floor, by rule, Boston’s defense gets worse.

2) Green’s issues aren’t confined solely to his work as an individual defender. He sometimes seems to get lost in Boston’s schemes, and he’s not a good rebounder for his position. Being a top-notch defender isn’t just about locking down your man.

A couple more questions, since Green has the talent to become a better defender but hasn’t always been productive on that side of the court: Can he continue to be a good individual defender, which he wasn’t always during his time with OKC? And can he learn how to become a better team defender, which is often more important than individual defense?

The Celtics defense provides a solid support system that often allows subpar defenders to seem considerably better (see: Allen, Ray). It’s not out of the question for Green to become passable, or even a defensive help, if he learns Boston’s schemes and commits himself on the help side. But one of the league’s best defenders? Let’s slow down a little there, at least for the time being.

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categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | October 21, 2012

8 Responses to “Jeff Green says he considers himself one of NBA’s best defenders”

  1. Frank says:
    October 21, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I don’t see Jeff as being the defensive stopper that he sees himself, but I’m glad he is willing to try. Please stop judging by those stupid stats, they are ridiculous! You know when I realized the plus minus stat made no sense? When Rondo scored 44 points in game 2 against Miami and we lost by 4, he played the entire game so technically his plus / minus was minus 4. The only stats that matter to me are points, rebounds and assists. As for defense, my eyes tell me who can play.

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    • James says:
      October 21, 2012 at 2:02 pm

      I agree with the LAME plus/minus stat. I posted about it last year when one of our worst subs played something like 15 mins and did nothing but he had a TO and a couple of fouls and he was in the plus by something like +20. It’s idiocy. Go Cs…

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  2. georgev says:
    October 21, 2012 at 12:46 pm

    Like his attitude. Let him believe in himself, thats critical for success. Let’s be on his side he’ one of ours

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  3. Greg says:
    October 21, 2012 at 1:47 pm

    I knew as soon as this came out you were salivating to do some Green-Bashing. The fact of the matter is he can be a top-tier defender if he truly commits to it (see the chase down block last night) and if he does, he will be a FAR better piece to our team than Perk EVER dreamed of being. After last night’s showing, I think it’s time for all Perk lovers to finally move on. Like you said, our system can turn average defenders (see: Kendrick Perkins’ performance in OKC so far) into good ones. Green will be better and let’s not forget that he’s still getting his legs under him.

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  4. James says:
    October 21, 2012 at 1:59 pm

    Earth to Jeff Green…talking defense is not going to make it happen. do it on the floor and shut-up about it and let us be the judges. So far in his career as a Celtic, his statement is just laughable. Yes, he can be an excellent defender but do it in the games that matter and shut your opponent down consistently…..and rebound. Trust me, we’ll notice, and the league will notice. As they say…talk is cheap. Go Cs…

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    • len says:
      October 21, 2012 at 5:28 pm

      let him say it…then it’s out there for all to see…now there is more pressure for him to do it. Say nothing, risk nothing. Go Jeff!

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