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Kendrick Perkins could return in late January, and my (belated) thoughts on the new-look Magic

MACAU, CHINA - JULY 31:  Hidayet Turkoglu (L) #15 of the Turkey National Team hugs with Dwight Howard #11of the USA Basketball Men's Senior National Team before the USA Basketball International Challenge exhibition game at the Coati Strip Cotai Arena July 31, 2008 in Macau, China.  (Photo by MN Chan/Getty Images)

On a day when Kendrick Perkins walked through some plays in practice (and even dunked a couple times, and might even be back by late January), I finally discuss the Orlando Magic’s trades.

Why didn’t I write about them before? For a couple reasons: 1) Life sometimes interferes even with the most dedicated bloggers, and 2) I needed some time to wrap my head around the thought of Malik Allen being a number one backup center.

Okay, on to the roster overhaul. First, I have no idea whether it will work. My guess would be that it doesn’t — mostly because, for it to work, Gilbert Arenas needs to return to ’06-’07 Agent Zero, and Hedo Turkoglu needs to revert to the walking mismatch who was Orlando’s go-to playmaker in their 2009 Finals run. To expect either of them to return to their former selves requires a leap of faith I’m not ready to make.

More likely, Jason Richardson will end up being Orlando’s most important acquisition from the trades. Which is fine… unless you’re actually trying to win an NBA championship, in which case you need at least one player who can create at the end of games. Richardson isn’t that guy, and neither is the Arenas we’ve seen since his return, and neither is the zombie living in Hedo’s body the past two seasons.

It’s clear Orlando made these moves to win an NBA championship now, and to entice Dwight Howard to stick around when his contract expires. But how much closer are they to a championship? They have SO many question marks in their lineup now.

How do Jameer Nelson and Gilbert Arenas fit in the same backcourt? Who becomes the playmaker come crunch time? Can this team stop anyone? Will Dwight Howard get into more foul trouble than ever before because his perimeter defenders act as a funnel straight to him? Is the trio of Ryan Anderson, Malik Allen and Daniel Orton REALLY Orlando’s only backcourt bench help? Is one ball going to be enough for this psychotic, half-crazy (entirely crazy?), shot-happy (no pun intended for Gilbert) crew? Does Hedo Turkoglu’s heart even still beat?

Okay, so the Magic probably aren’t done trading yet. I don’t see J.J. Redick sticking around (there isn’t really a spot for him anymore), so he’ll probably get swapped for some big man help. Even so, the perimeter questions still stand. All of them. Call me crazy, but I don’t see any of these new Magicians A) fitting in well with Stan Van Gundy’s style, B) stopping a soul, or C) taking over come crunch time. In their primes, yes. But these folks aren’t in their primes anymore. In their Magic opener, Hedo (shocking nobody in Toronto or Phoenix) still sucked, and Arenas came off the bench and shot 2-11 (also shocking nobody). Will they improve with time? I assume. But don’t expect any of these guys to be stars, in Orlando. And the Magic need at least one of them to be capable of star production.

(Side note: Malik Allen played 13 minutes in his first post-trade action, registering 0 points and 1 rebound. That next trade can’t come soon enough.)

In conclusion, I like the motives behind the trades, but not the trades themselves. Otis Smith knew his Magic, as they were constructed, weren’t going to win a championship. So he pulled the trigger, drastically changing a team that was only a step shy of a championship in the first place. More GMs should be built like that. The NBA should be about winning championships, and anything else should be uncivilized.

Just take a look at the Atlanta Hawks. As presently constructed, they have zero shot of winning a championship or even coming close. But they just signed Joe Johnson for $120 million, apparently so they can continue their string of first- and second-round playoff runs for the foreseeable future. It’s like when the Celtics traded away Joe Johnson so they could rent Tony Delk and Rodney Rodgers. Sure, the trade helped them reach the Eastern Conference Finals, but I promise: no matter what happened, a lineup of Kenny Anderson, Paul Pierce, Tony Delk, Antoine Walker and Tony Battie was never taking down the Shaq-Kobe Los Angeles Lakers. What’s better — reaching the Eastern Conference Finals or keeping your most promising rookie since Paul Pierce? What’s more important — reaching a low ceiling, or trying to make that ceiling a little higher?

Back to the Magic, I admire the stones Otis Smith displayed while trying to shake things up. But the overhaul seems a lot more like Steve Kerr’s failed Shaq experiment in Phoenix, rather than the Rasheed Wallace trade that spurred Detroit to the 2004 title. Trading for big names doesn’t always equate to success, and I have a feeling Otis Smith will soon kick himself that he didn’t spend more time trying to acquire Carmelo Anthony.

Basically, the Magic traded two old, over-the-hill big names (and Marcin Gortat) for two old, over-the-hill big names (and Jason Richardson). They changed, indeed.

But are they any closer to the elusive NBA championship? I think not.

categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | December 21, 2010 | comments Comments (3)

categories Boston Celtics, Dwight Howard, Gilbert Arenas, Hedo Turkoglu, J.J. Redick, Jameer Nelson, Jason Richardson, Kendrick Perkins, Malik Allen, Orlando Magic

NBA’s Top 10 assists from 2009-2010: Eddie House to Tony Allen earns the top spot

I know, neither Eddie House nor Tony Allen play for the Boston Celtics anymore. But they did when they combined for the NBA’s top assist from 2010-2011. The other assists are great to watch too. There’s nothing in life — and I mean absolutely nothing — prettier than a nice dime.

Can you please tell me how Hedo Turkoglu’s assist only ranked as the sixth-best? Ludicrous. He threw a perfect underhanded alley oop straight out of his dribble. That’s more difficult than these. Okay, maybe not, but still.

categories Celtics Blog, Highlight Reel of the Day | Jay King | September 21, 2010 | comments Comments Off

categories Boston Celtics, Eddie House, Hedo Turkoglu, Highlight Reel of the Day, Tony Allen

Throwing some dimes, starring Antoine Walker as one of the worst champions ever

Every once in a while, I link to a few articles from other writers around the internet. You know, I throw some dimes.

  1. Basketbawful makes the claim that Antoine Walker, who won a ring with the Heat, is one of the worst NBA champions ever. I was prepared to argue the case, but then Basketbawful pulled out this stat: “Those two things — inefficient O, shaky D — were recurring trends for Walker, who never once finished a season with a better Offensive Rating than Defensive Rating. In fact, his finished his career with an O-Rating of 97 and a D-Rating of 105. That’s right: ‘Toine was worth -8 points per 100 possessions over his career.” Damn. If ‘Toine was really THAT bad, doesn’t that make what Paul Pierce accomplished in those years even more special? He already dragged Eric Williams, Tony Battie and Kenny Anderson to the Conference Finals. Now Antoine might have been dead weight too?
  2. Another day, another columnist tearing Shaq apart for his Mo Williams comments. This time, it’s Cleveland columnist Bud Shaw.
  3. Nate Robinson’s jersey is going to be retired by his high school, Rainer Beach. Surprisingly, Nate only averaged 17.9 points per game in his senior year.
  4. Kendrick Perkins actually has a solid highlight tape.
  5. Wow. People really painted a swastika on an Omri Casspi mural? That’s as bad as it gets. Some people need to grow up.
  6. I’m falling in love with the Turkish national team and the way they play basketball. I’m not falling in love with Semih Erden, who largely does nothing. But the real concern is, what in the world is Hedo Turkoglu doing at the beginning of this clip?

Got a tip? An article you think should be included? Send an email to jayking@celticstown.com or hit me up on Twitter @CelticsTown.

categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | September 9, 2010 | comments Comments (1)

categories Antoine Walker, Boston Celtics, Hedo Turkoglu, Kendrick Perkins, Nate Robinson, Omri Casspi, Semih Erden, Shaquille O'Neal

Semih Erden looking good in FIBA play

Semih Automatic.

Playing against Luis Scola and the Argentina national team, Semih Erden held his own. In fact, he kind of balled out, leading his team in both scoring and rebounding. (FIBA.com)

Argentina claimed a very important scalp ahead of the FIBA World Championship on Monday night.

Sergio Hernandez’s team, holding the number one spot in the FIBA World Rankings, beat Turkey in overtime, 93-89.

For Turkey, Semih Erden scored 15 points and had eight rebounds while Kerem Tunceri and Hedo Turkoglu each had 14.

I like it. I still don’t think Erden has the slightest chance of sniffing even a few minutes of playing time, but I always like to see young Celtics play well. And dropping 15 and 8 on Scola in a close game is mighty impressive.

categories Celtics Blog | Jay King | August 26, 2010 | comments Comments (4)

categories Boston Celtics, Hedo Turkoglu, Luis Scola, Semih Erden

Morning Walkthrough: Turk would make difference

The Celtics have gotten rid of their morning walkthrough, but that doesn’t mean we have to. Here are a few Celtics links, and maybe even an NBA link or two, to help wake you up and get you focused for the day.

The Celtics say the Pizza Man would help Orlando more than Vince.

Jessica Camerato, WEEI – “The sudden disappearance of Rashard Lewis is not the only thing missing from the Magic team that defeated the Celtics in last season’s Eastern Conference semifinals. This time around they are playing without Hedo Turkoglu, who left Orlando last summer and signed a mulit-year deal with the Raptors. Even though the Magic acquired Vince Carter in his place — a role Carter’s teammates say he has filled well — the Celtics have noticed a difference in matchups without Turkoglu on the court. It is one they have benefited from in the conference finals. ‘Definitely with Turkoglu, he adds a size matchup being at 6’10 he can play the two, the three, the one. Obviously a walking matchup problem,’ Paul Pierce said following practice on Sunday. ‘I just think the things that he does playing with the ball and off the ball in the post, he’s one of the more versatile small forwards in the NBA and one of the toughest that I’ve seen to guard. Them not having him, I think it really works in our favor.’”

Julian Benbow, Boston Globe – “Being optimistic, coach Doc Rivers figured the defense would be better in the postseason. Being realistic, he knew if the Celtics wanted to win, they had no choice. ‘It had to be [better],’ Rivers said yesterday. ‘During the regular season, teams were hitting 110. We clearly are a different team.’ Indeed, the Celtics have had the Magic boxed in for the majority of the Eastern Conference finals, taking a three-games-to-none-lead with a 94-71 win Saturday night. The Celtics, who can close out the series tonight at the Garden, have given up 100 points just three times in these playoffs — their only three losses. In their 11 playoff wins, the Celtics have held opponents to 84.9 points a game. The defense that struggled to keep teams from hanging 100 at the end of the regular season is now playing as well as it has all season. ‘We’re playing well,’ said Rivers. ‘We’re playing as a group. There’s a lot of individual defenders on our team. [Rajon] Rondo can be terrific. So can Kevin [Garnett] and Perk [Kendrick Perkins]. But the reason we’re playing well is because as a group, we’re doing it together. We’re doing it in system.’”

Mark Murphy, Boston Herald – “‘I still don’t think [Kevin Garnett is] 100 percent – maybe about 85 percent,’ Perkins said. ‘He’s showing flashes of his old self, though, like how he shows in the pick-and-roll. He’s defending the pick-and-roll and getting back on the isolation. I don’t know how much better he can get at it. All I know is that he’s doing that great now.’ And as far as defending Orlando is concerned, the Celtics are getting all they need from their defensive heart. ‘It’s obvious, how much better he is now,’ Pierce said. ‘You’re seeing it in the way he rebounds the ball and sprints down the court. Let’s face it: Without Kevin we can’t win a championship. I’m replaceable, Ray’s replaceable, Rondo. But you can’t replace Kevin.’”

A. Sherrod Blakely, CSNNE – “‘We have a lot of different leaders on the team,’ Rondo said. ‘It starts with me, but Kevin is our vocal leader. Paul is our captain. And Ray is our leader as well. It’s no particular person that’s the exact leader.’ In an interview with CSNNE.com, Allen had similar comments about the C’s leadership this season. ‘Each guy on this team is an individual leader,’ Allen said. ‘Having a voice and leading. And sometimes not having a voice, and just leading by example. There’s a lot of different scenarios.’”

Steve Bulpett, Boston Herald – “On a club with this much talent, the sight of the Magic failing to play for each other is a clear sign that no magnetic force in sneakers has yet emerged. Watching them get humiliated Saturday night, the mind wandered back to the 2007 Red Sox falling behind Cleveland in baseball’s playoffs. David Ortiz called a players-only meeting, grabbed his jersey and said that wearing the Sox suit made one ‘a bad (very long expletive).’ Who among the Magic, we wondered, would step up and make that speech? (Insert audio of crickets here.) The players said they’d had an upbeat practice, but afterward they looked more like they were at a wake. Their own. Perhaps the corpse of the previous night’s debacle hadn’t yet cooled. ‘I’ll be honest,’ said Van Gundy. ‘I’m somebody who says I’m never shocked, but I was shocked (Saturday) night that we didn’t handle the situation better and play with more intensity and determination. I was shocked by our lack of effort throughout the game (Saturday) night. That shocked me. Look, they thumped us pretty good. Everything’s got to change, from our defensive disposition to our effort to our offensive energy and decision making.’”

Jessica Camerato, WEEI – “The Celtics are one game away from eliminating the Magic and advancing to the NBA Finals, and they believe credit should be given where credit is due. ‘I believe we deserve all the credit,’ Ray Allen said following practice on Sunday. ‘It’s only two teams playing. We’re putting them in the situation that they’re in, and we’re adjusting and trying to find the ways that we can confuse them as much as we can, and make it tough defensively on them and offensively. They’re not going out there and doing it to themselves.’”

ESPNBoston.com
– “Rajon Rondo is enjoying a playoff run for the ages. He is averaging over 17 points, 10 assists and five rebounds per game. He is just the fourth different player to have those numbers in playoff history. The others are Magic Johnson (nine times), Isiah Thomas (1985) and Bob Cousy (1959).”

Gary Washburn, Boston Globe – “The Magic are being counted out, and their effort in Game 3 gave neither their fan base nor anyone else reason to believe the series will extend beyond tonight. ‘We can still play great basketball and we will [tonight],’ said Nelson, the lone Magic player who has consistently played with desire in the series. ‘It’s just been mental breakdowns. Before practice, I was frustrated a lot. But it’s over with. There are numerous things we could have done a lot better. Our effort wasn’t there and film doesn’t lie. We can complain and say things during the course of the game, but when you sit there and watch film and you see things, that’s the mental toughness we’ve been lacking for the first three games. This is not the team you’ve seen win 59 [in the regular season], and the first two series. But we’ve got to prepare ourselves for this game and put those three behind us.’ So the goal, at least for now, has been reduced from winning the NBA Finals to winning one game.”

Michael Vega, Boston Globe – “Did the Bruins’ playoff demise serve as a cautionary tale for the Celtics after their 94-71 victory in Game 3 Saturday night gave them a three-games-to-none lead over the Magic? ‘Well, it should be,’ said coach Doc Rivers yesterday during practice in preparation for tonight’s Game 4 at the Garden. ‘I know you guys will make it [a cautionary tale], so I don’t even have to worry about that. The greatest part — and probably the toughest part — about playing sports or coaching sports in Boston is the history. Everyone’s going to remind you of the good history, and everyone’s going to remind you of the bad history. So, in some ways, it could be a benefit for us.’ Though Kevin Garnett acknowledged ‘closeout games are the hardest, the most difficult’ games to win, he was quick to point out, ‘This is not hockey,’ when asked if he had any concerns about the Celtics suffering the same fate as the Bruins. ‘I’m not even looking at that,’ he said. ‘The Bruins are not the Celtics and the Celtics are not the Bruins. It’s apples and oranges.’”

ESPNBoston.com – “[Stuart] Scott: ‘How does Orlando try to win Game 4?’ [Magic] Johnson: ‘Honestly, they can’t. I’m going to just be honest. When you think about the Boston Celtics defense, they’ve taken away everybody, especially the role players. … They’ve broken Orlando’s will to win. I don’t see the spirit, I don’t see the will of this team coming out to beat the Boston Celtics.’”

Chris Forsberg, ESPNBoston – “Celtics coach Doc Rivers suggested Sunday that reserve guard Tony Allen has been playing through ankle pain that left the team wondering if he’d even be available for Game 3. ‘Tony’s ankle has been bothering him a lot, but he’s playing through it,’ said Rivers. Allen missed the first 20 games of the 2009-10 season with a sore right ankle after rushing himself back from offseason ankle surgery and aggravating the injury during the only preseason game he appeared in.”

Rich Levine, CSNNE – “In 2010, it’s about greed. It’s about wanting more, but knowing, deep down, that if it doesn’t work out, there’s still that one; that no one will go home completely empty-handed. That’s not to say that the motivation isn’t there. This team has a whole new set of doubters to prove wrong. A second title would take them to borderline dynastic. But there’s still nothing like the first, and no way to re-create that urgency. That doesn’t mean the Celtics are doomed. It’s just another reason why, as the captain said, this year’s completely different.”

Steve Buckley, Boston Herald – “This past regular season, with too many people hurt, too many questions, too many observers whispering they’d be one-and-done in the playoffs, the Celtics were just 24-17 at home. By comparison, the Toronto Raptors, who at 40-42 had only the 19th best record in the NBA, were 25-16 at home. Yet there was Kevin Garnett Saturday night, taking in Gino Time as only he can. For not only are the Celtics ‘back,’ they have conquered whatever problems they brought out to the parquet during the regular season. When they take the court tonight for Game 4 against the deflated, sad Magic, the Garden will be primed and ready to be the launching pad to the team’s second trip to the NBA Finals in three years. It wasn’t long ago – just weeks, really – that people were asking which of Boston’s four pro sports franchises was the closest to winning a championship. Few had the Celtics on the list, even after they dismissed the Miami Heat in just five games in the first round. The Celtics made believers of everyone when they humiliated the Cleveland Cavaliers in the next round, but there was one home clunker in the mix: a 124-95 loss to the Cavs. But think big picture: The Celtics are 6-1 at home in the postseason.”

Mark Heisler, L.A. Times – “Just what the Lakers needed, a real series. Now a virtual certainty that they will play rough, tough Boston — should they advance, of course — the Lakers found themselves needing a quick knockout in the Western Conference finals, but they didn’t get it Sunday. Instead, the Phoenix Suns climbed off the canvas and smote them, 118-109, meaning that the Lakers either put the Suns back on the ropes Tuesday or the series will go from ‘real’ to ‘tied.’”

Paula Boivin, Arizona Republic – “If you can judge a man by his shoes, then you can judge a basketball player by his locker. Amar’e Stoudemire has a diagram of John Wooden’s pyramid of success taped inside his space. On a shelf is a book called ‘Becoming Vegan.’ The man has spoken a lot about becoming a more complete player. On Sunday in Game 3 against the Los Angeles Lakers, he finally delivered. Forty-two points. Eleven rebounds. And a big-time nasty attitude. This is what the Suns have wanted from Stoudemire, what they needed if they hoped to avoid a Lakers sweep. It is the type of game that tips the scale toward staying as the front office contemplates how hard to court him. ‘He got his way (Sunday night),’ Lakers forward Pau Gasol said after the Suns 118-109 victory. ‘We’ll get our way next time.’ Will they? Those are words Stoudemire should embrace. He did it Sunday night. The Suns need him to bring it again.”

AP – “The Cleveland Cavaliers have fired coach Mike Brown after five seasons for failing to win an NBA title with LeBron James. ‘After a long and deep analysis of all of the factors that led to the disappointing early ends to our playoff runs over the past two seasons, we concluded that it was time for the Cavaliers to move in a different direction,’ Gilbert said Monday in a statement released by the team. ‘The expectations of this organization are very high and, although change always carries an element of risk, there are times when that risk must be taken in an attempt to break through to new, higher levels of accomplishment. This is one of those times.’”

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categories Around the NBA, Celtics Blog, Featured, Morning Walkthrough | Jay King | May 24, 2010 | comments Comments Off

categories Amare Stoudemire, Boston Celtics, Doc Rivers, Dwight Howard, Glen Davis, Hedo Turkoglu, Jameer Nelson, Kevin Garnett, Lebron James, Mike Brown, Orlando Magic, Pau Gasol, Paul Pierce, Rajon Rondo, Rashard Lewis, Ray Allen, Tony Allen

Vince Carter is still a disappointment

Vince could have been one of the all-time greats.

Vince Carter’s game last night will be remembered for his missed free throws (honestly, did anyone have confidence those were going in?), but it was everything else he did that encapsulated his sorry-ass, underacheiving career.

Carter took bad shots, got murdered defensively, and the offense generally ran best when he was sitting on the bench.  The Magic’s early comeback — after Vince got into foul trouble while his early-game defense did nothing but encourage Paul Pierce to take over the game — all happened with Vince on the bench.  When J.J. Redick and Matt Barnes were together, everything just seemed to flow more easily.  Part of it is probably Vince’s shot selection.  I remember three really bad ones off the top of my head — two off-balance runners that drew nothing but backboard, and a three-pointer from the corner that he actually made.  It was a quick-release, contested, fadeaway three with 12 seconds left on the shot clock.

Just look at this quote from Rashard Lewis, after the game.  “Everybody’s trying to be the hero,” Lewis said. “Everybody’s trying to make the tough play. Hey, I wanted to do the same thing, but I just couldn’t get my hands on the ball.”

I just couldn’t get my hands on the ball.  Lewis didn’t say that too much last year, when Hedo Turkoglu was running the show.  He never seemed to lack touches when Hedo was around.  And good touches too, touches he could do something with.  Lewis is still the Magic’s biggest mismatch against the Celtics.  As much as it looks like Kevin Garnett’s completely dominated him, Lewis can go by him almost at will.  For awhile yesterday, Glen Davis defended Lewis.  Even then, Lewis hardly got touches.  Just to let you know, Rashard could get by Davis in his sleep.  But he only got one touch in a good situation.  The result?  A layup that followed one of the easiest drives to the hoop of Lewis’s career.  Believe me, Rashard’s still a mismatch.

He just doesn’t get the same opportunities as last season, because the Magic’s offense doesn’t have the same ball movement, the same fluidity it did when Hedo was around.  Hedo was a hell of a playmaker, but more importantly he was an intelligent basketball player.  He knew when to create his own shot, when to create for others, or when to simply swing the basketball around the perimeter.  He was someone who always seemed fun to play with.

Carter has been called a lot of things in his career, but fun to play with has never been one of them.  He’s still a wonderful talent, but he almost never fails to leave me shaking my head in disgust.  He takes bad shots, holds the ball for too long, and doesn’t know when to make the basketball play.  He attacks when he should swing the ball, and swings when he should attack.  He takes shots after a jab step from 26 feet out, but doesn’t relocate off the ball to get open looks.  Carter lacks the intelligence, or whatever else it is, that would allow him to consistently make plays that benefit his team.  He’s still a very good player, a game-changing player, but has never once tricked anyone into thinking that he’s reached the best of his abilities.

When he choked missed those free throws last night, I wasn’t even a bit surprised.  Why would we ever expect those free throws to go in, after Carter has taught us time after time that he gets smaller as the moment gets larger?  In between free throws, there was a cut to Carter’s face.  He looked equal parts confused and scared.  There didn’t seem to be a hint of confidence on his face.  Really, not a hint.  He almost looked like he was constipated, rather than an NBA star ready to make two big free throws to help his team steal a pivotal game.  In a way, his whole career boils down to that one face.  When it comes to big moments, Carter is either scared or confused.  He doesn’t know what to do, won’t work for an easy shot, and often fails to make the right play.  Sometimes – often, even — Carter has good games, but even when he does he leaves his fans wanting more (he does have SOME fans, right?).  And in big moments, he mostly leaves those fans with the same exact face he wore while he was on the foul line.

“We’re not taking good enough shots,” said Stan Van Gundy. I’ve got a news flash for you guys: It wasn’t Dwight Howard taking bad shots.

But we don’t rip into Vince Carter because he occasionally takes bad shots, or because he sometimes misses big ones.  We rip into him because he could have been really, really special.

categories Celtics Columns, Featured | Jay King | May 19, 2010 | comments Comments (3)

categories Boston Celtics, Glen Davis, Hedo Turkoglu, Kevin Garnett, Orlando Magic, Rashard Lewis, Vince Carter

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